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		<title>By: SanctumSanctorumComix</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanctumSanctorumComix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with you 100% on nearly all points (except 2):

1) I would actually buy the trade to Evolutionary War &amp; Atlantis Attacks
 *PURELY from a completitsts mentality. I&#039;ve been trying to cheaply finish those &quot;runs&quot; for awhile and NO SHOPPE ever has half of the titles / issues.
Seriously, was anybody BUYING the NAMOR title during that time? No store has those issues.

2) Captain Britain actually came to U.S. comics in the pages of MARVEL TEAM-UP # 65-66.
Long before New Mutants were a gleam in the Radioactiveman&#039;s eye.

;-)

~P~
P-TOR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with you 100% on nearly all points (except 2):</p>
<p>1) I would actually buy the trade to Evolutionary War &amp; Atlantis Attacks<br />
 *PURELY from a completitsts mentality. I&#8217;ve been trying to cheaply finish those &#8220;runs&#8221; for awhile and NO SHOPPE ever has half of the titles / issues.<br />
Seriously, was anybody BUYING the NAMOR title during that time? No store has those issues.</p>
<p>2) Captain Britain actually came to U.S. comics in the pages of MARVEL TEAM-UP # 65-66.<br />
Long before New Mutants were a gleam in the Radioactiveman&#8217;s eye.</p>
<p>;-)</p>
<p>~P~<br />
P-TOR</p>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
		<link>http://www.politedissent.com/archives/1406/comment-page-1#comment-8855</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Its no coincidence that Atlantis Attacks, The Evolutionary War, and Days of Future Present have never been collected in trade paperback.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, its because the story in these books stank to high heaven AND had almost no impact on the continuing Marvel universe as a whole (seriously - there was never any fallout from the Evolutionary War or Atlantis Attacks, despite the fact that the premises of both could have led to some good follow-up stories).  Why bother collecting them?  Who would want to buy them?  Especially at the cost that volumes of the size these would need would have.  I mean, Armageddon 2001 hasn&#039;t been collected either, despite being a slightly (only slightly) better &quot;Annual Event&quot; and having actual ramifications for the DC Universe (however small they turned out to be).  It would be a bear to collect all of those stories, weave them together into some coherent whole, and end up with a volume that retailed for $20 or less - any of these stories would probably require 2 volumes (maybe 3) - again I ask, who would buy them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Its no coincidence that Atlantis Attacks, The Evolutionary War, and Days of Future Present have never been collected in trade paperback.</i></p>
<p>Yes, its because the story in these books stank to high heaven AND had almost no impact on the continuing Marvel universe as a whole (seriously &#8211; there was never any fallout from the Evolutionary War or Atlantis Attacks, despite the fact that the premises of both could have led to some good follow-up stories).  Why bother collecting them?  Who would want to buy them?  Especially at the cost that volumes of the size these would need would have.  I mean, Armageddon 2001 hasn&#8217;t been collected either, despite being a slightly (only slightly) better &#8220;Annual Event&#8221; and having actual ramifications for the DC Universe (however small they turned out to be).  It would be a bear to collect all of those stories, weave them together into some coherent whole, and end up with a volume that retailed for $20 or less &#8211; any of these stories would probably require 2 volumes (maybe 3) &#8211; again I ask, who would buy them?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
		<link>http://www.politedissent.com/archives/1406/comment-page-1#comment-8832</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, if I were reading comics at the time, I would have liked the elseworld annuals if only because they gave us reimagined versions of franchises who wouldn&#039;t normally get such a treatment, like the two Legion elsewords annuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, if I were reading comics at the time, I would have liked the elseworld annuals if only because they gave us reimagined versions of franchises who wouldn&#8217;t normally get such a treatment, like the two Legion elsewords annuals.</p>
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		<title>By: jake saint</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like my idea (ha!) that annuals should be either 
1) creator spotlights for
  a) creators that simply don&#039;t have time for an ongoing (or even a complete mini-series-- I&#039;m looking at you, Hollywood) 
  b) old-timey veterans with nostalgia appeal

or

2) character spotlights for B- and C- listers without their own ongoing.  Do we need another X-Men comic?  Wouldn&#039;t you prefer something different, like a Black Golia-- er, a Tigra story?  This seems to me a cheaper and easier measure of a character&#039;s current appeal than waiting for dreadful numbers on a five-issue mini.  If the numbers are good, move the character up to a mini, if they&#039;re only OK, give them another shot next year, if they&#039;re awful, wait two years and kick &#039;em with the re-boot ...boot.

Big Yes to continuity, but I don&#039;t like annuals to be a part of an ongoing&#039;s story done by the same creators (guess which part of the Judas Contract I don&#039;t have?) -- though I gather this is pretty much the format of the well-received Ultimate annuals.

Also, annuals should have short back-up stories used to break in new talent.  Maybe that&#039;s just ME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like my idea (ha!) that annuals should be either<br />
1) creator spotlights for<br />
  a) creators that simply don&#8217;t have time for an ongoing (or even a complete mini-series&#8211; I&#8217;m looking at you, Hollywood)<br />
  b) old-timey veterans with nostalgia appeal</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>2) character spotlights for B- and C- listers without their own ongoing.  Do we need another X-Men comic?  Wouldn&#8217;t you prefer something different, like a Black Golia&#8211; er, a Tigra story?  This seems to me a cheaper and easier measure of a character&#8217;s current appeal than waiting for dreadful numbers on a five-issue mini.  If the numbers are good, move the character up to a mini, if they&#8217;re only OK, give them another shot next year, if they&#8217;re awful, wait two years and kick &#8216;em with the re-boot &#8230;boot.</p>
<p>Big Yes to continuity, but I don&#8217;t like annuals to be a part of an ongoing&#8217;s story done by the same creators (guess which part of the Judas Contract I don&#8217;t have?) &#8212; though I gather this is pretty much the format of the well-received Ultimate annuals.</p>
<p>Also, annuals should have short back-up stories used to break in new talent.  Maybe that&#8217;s just ME.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Laffoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Laffoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEEEAAAHHH!!!  A single post with 2 countem 2 references to my all time favorite comics (New Mutants)...a think I&#039;m gonna pass out and probably suffer a nose bleed.  My favorite first appearance in an annual of course was Rougue in Avengers Annual #10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEEEAAAHHH!!!  A single post with 2 countem 2 references to my all time favorite comics (New Mutants)&#8230;a think I&#8217;m gonna pass out and probably suffer a nose bleed.  My favorite first appearance in an annual of course was Rougue in Avengers Annual #10.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conor E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 05:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have the Days of Future Present TPB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have the Days of Future Present TPB.</p>
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