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	<title>Comments on: Tony Stark&#8217;s Heart &#8211; The Early Years</title>
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		<title>By: Will Gillies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Gillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I figure it best is the electromagnet kept the shrapnel at bay, but there was some heart damage. The armor had a very primative defibralator system.
a &#039;a focused beam of radio-stimulation that would jump-start his heart control nerves.&#039; 
(I lifted that from http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=154962)
Eventually , the heart got damaged so badly, after Stark&#039;s battle with an LMD version of himsef it was repaired by synthetic tissue.
Now, I don&#039;t know if it was the old  heart patched up (which I suspect) or an entirley new heart.

Now, Many Many years later, after some more heart trouble, alcholoisim, getting shot and paralyzed, walking again, getting his nervous system eaten  and replaced, being frozen, being defrosted and paralyzed again, and walking yet again, Tony Stark is killed during the Crossing.

Then there was teen Tony, who also had a heart trouble. 

Then Heroes reborn happened.
A new Tony Stark got his heart shredded, by a bit of helicopter, and donned armour which kept it beating. (nanites probably)

Then cam heroes return. The three above Tony Starks were merged into one. No heart trouble, no artificial nervous system. He was ok. 

Until the &#039;living armor&#039; storyline. Then he got that artificial heart which I guess ceased to be a plot device after Extremis, the Extremis itself being a bigger plot device. The last i saw the Ultronic heart 
 was during the Avengers Disassembled  Iron man tie in when Ruiko, Tony&#039;s Girlfriend died.

Heres more if it helps.
http://www.ironmanarmory.com/starkbio.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I figure it best is the electromagnet kept the shrapnel at bay, but there was some heart damage. The armor had a very primative defibralator system.<br />
a &#8216;a focused beam of radio-stimulation that would jump-start his heart control nerves.&#8217;<br />
(I lifted that from <a href="http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=154962)" rel="nofollow">http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=154962)</a><br />
Eventually , the heart got damaged so badly, after Stark&#8217;s battle with an LMD version of himsef it was repaired by synthetic tissue.<br />
Now, I don&#8217;t know if it was the old  heart patched up (which I suspect) or an entirley new heart.</p>
<p>Now, Many Many years later, after some more heart trouble, alcholoisim, getting shot and paralyzed, walking again, getting his nervous system eaten  and replaced, being frozen, being defrosted and paralyzed again, and walking yet again, Tony Stark is killed during the Crossing.</p>
<p>Then there was teen Tony, who also had a heart trouble. </p>
<p>Then Heroes reborn happened.<br />
A new Tony Stark got his heart shredded, by a bit of helicopter, and donned armour which kept it beating. (nanites probably)</p>
<p>Then cam heroes return. The three above Tony Starks were merged into one. No heart trouble, no artificial nervous system. He was ok. </p>
<p>Until the &#8216;living armor&#8217; storyline. Then he got that artificial heart which I guess ceased to be a plot device after Extremis, the Extremis itself being a bigger plot device. The last i saw the Ultronic heart<br />
 was during the Avengers Disassembled  Iron man tie in when Ruiko, Tony&#8217;s Girlfriend died.</p>
<p>Heres more if it helps.<br />
<a href="http://www.ironmanarmory.com/starkbio.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ironmanarmory.com/starkbio.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine how effective Iron Man could be if he wasn&#039;t wasting so much time and energy on all that exposition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine how effective Iron Man could be if he wasn&#8217;t wasting so much time and energy on all that exposition!</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://www.politedissent.com/archives/1878/comment-page-1#comment-238175</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how reasonable this is medically, but I think the original idea was that there were a lot of little metal shrapnel fragments in his chest that were slowly working their way towards his heart as breathed, moved around, etc. And that there were just too many of them to remove (given the surgical technology of the time) without completely ripping up his chest. The chest plate &quot;magnetic field&quot; kept all the fragments from moving further in or pressing on his heart, but couldn&#039;t extract them. So a heart transplant would just end up with him having an injured new heart as remaining pieces of shrapnel in his chest damaged it.

Something like what happened to the guy who Dick Cheney shot in a hunting accident, where a piece of bidrshot actually moved in the victim&#039;s chest and caused him to have a heart attack later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how reasonable this is medically, but I think the original idea was that there were a lot of little metal shrapnel fragments in his chest that were slowly working their way towards his heart as breathed, moved around, etc. And that there were just too many of them to remove (given the surgical technology of the time) without completely ripping up his chest. The chest plate &#8220;magnetic field&#8221; kept all the fragments from moving further in or pressing on his heart, but couldn&#8217;t extract them. So a heart transplant would just end up with him having an injured new heart as remaining pieces of shrapnel in his chest damaged it.</p>
<p>Something like what happened to the guy who Dick Cheney shot in a hunting accident, where a piece of bidrshot actually moved in the victim&#8217;s chest and caused him to have a heart attack later.</p>
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		<title>By: fluffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>fluffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Tony Stark ever gone to the UK only to find that he didn&#039;t have the right adapter for his chest plate?

MUST... FIND... THE RIGHT... PLUGS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Tony Stark ever gone to the UK only to find that he didn&#8217;t have the right adapter for his chest plate?</p>
<p>MUST&#8230; FIND&#8230; THE RIGHT&#8230; PLUGS</p>
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		<title>By: McKenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget his heart, what about hygine? How in the world did he keep that huge metal wife-beater on for 10 years without getting some sort of infection, or at the very least without it affecting his playboy lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget his heart, what about hygine? How in the world did he keep that huge metal wife-beater on for 10 years without getting some sort of infection, or at the very least without it affecting his playboy lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: iJusten</title>
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		<dc:creator>iJusten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that at few times the writer is confusing what the armour actually does. Few times the comics seem to suggest that the heart *itself* needs the energy keep beating, instead of to keep a piece of shrapnel *off* the heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that at few times the writer is confusing what the armour actually does. Few times the comics seem to suggest that the heart *itself* needs the energy keep beating, instead of to keep a piece of shrapnel *off* the heart.</p>
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		<title>By: jillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>jillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/2060new_storyimage0341082_full.jpg

Looks like there&#039;s something, er, vaguely around his heart. Chest. Area. (My god, I should just not comment on this blog.)</description>
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<p>Looks like there&#8217;s something, er, vaguely around his heart. Chest. Area. (My god, I should just not comment on this blog.)</p>
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		<title>By: ScienceGiant</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScienceGiant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there some reason Tony never considered a heart transplant? Other than the Gilligan&#039;s Island rule? I mean, it must be a million trillion times easier to have a pacemaker implanted than wear the Iron Man armor. I&#039;m curious to see how the movie plans to deal with this.

Also, my alltime fav updating on Tony&#039;s suit: coating it with gold spraypaint. I LOVED IT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there some reason Tony never considered a heart transplant? Other than the Gilligan&#8217;s Island rule? I mean, it must be a million trillion times easier to have a pacemaker implanted than wear the Iron Man armor. I&#8217;m curious to see how the movie plans to deal with this.</p>
<p>Also, my alltime fav updating on Tony&#8217;s suit: coating it with gold spraypaint. I LOVED IT!</p>
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		<title>By: Arkonbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arkonbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, man. That was a lot of work to make that post!

What with being tied to the need to find an outlet and all, I wonder if Stark has problems in Europe (or is the Iron Man suit universal). Perhaps the new Iron Man suit should be a hybrid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, man. That was a lot of work to make that post!</p>
<p>What with being tied to the need to find an outlet and all, I wonder if Stark has problems in Europe (or is the Iron Man suit universal). Perhaps the new Iron Man suit should be a hybrid.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...Tony Stark has a problem with his heart? Is that what I&#039;m getting? Huh. Who knew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;Tony Stark has a problem with his heart? Is that what I&#8217;m getting? Huh. Who knew.</p>
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