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	<title>Comments on: Hawk and Dove in Armageddon 2001</title>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My interpretation of the entire Monarch story is that Captian Atom is the &quot;true&quot; Monarch from the future.  

In the JSA: Princes of Darkness storyline it is implied that the wizard Mordru corrupted Hank Hall and concealed Dawn.  
Perhaps, the &quot;Monarch&quot; who kidnaps Hank and Dawn is actually Mordru enacting his plans to drive Hank insane and have Dove impregnated with the fate child.
Mordru was just playing with Hank&#039;s mind, seemingly killing Dove, and making Hank blame his future self.

It may not be what was originally intended but it does explain how Hawk and Dove could be battling the real Monarch (Captian Atom) in their future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My interpretation of the entire Monarch story is that Captian Atom is the &#8220;true&#8221; Monarch from the future.  </p>
<p>In the JSA: Princes of Darkness storyline it is implied that the wizard Mordru corrupted Hank Hall and concealed Dawn.<br />
Perhaps, the &#8220;Monarch&#8221; who kidnaps Hank and Dawn is actually Mordru enacting his plans to drive Hank insane and have Dove impregnated with the fate child.<br />
Mordru was just playing with Hank&#8217;s mind, seemingly killing Dove, and making Hank blame his future self.</p>
<p>It may not be what was originally intended but it does explain how Hawk and Dove could be battling the real Monarch (Captian Atom) in their future.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that his previous appearance in the Wildstorm universe had him be an actual hero who abhorred the Authority&#039;s readiness to kill people as a first reaction and tried to inspire them to change for the better. 

Of course he then killed the spirit of the world and caused the entropic death of the universe, so maybe that unhinged him a bit.

Also I think in The History of Monarch in one of the issues of Countdown it does positively identify Hank Hall as the &quot;First Monarch&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that his previous appearance in the Wildstorm universe had him be an actual hero who abhorred the Authority&#8217;s readiness to kill people as a first reaction and tried to inspire them to change for the better. </p>
<p>Of course he then killed the spirit of the world and caused the entropic death of the universe, so maybe that unhinged him a bit.</p>
<p>Also I think in The History of Monarch in one of the issues of Countdown it does positively identify Hank Hall as the &#8220;First Monarch&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t understand why DC has brought back Monarch as Captain Atom.  If they had stuck to their guns and made Captain Atom Monarch in the first place that would be something.  But this?

The Wizard page you linked to implies that it is DC&#039;s attempt to &quot;make things right&quot;.  If that is their motivation, its just stupid.  It doesn&#039;t change the way that bungled the Armageddon 2001 storyline in the first place.  Moreover, every time I see him it just reminds me of the fiasco.

Oh well.  I guess I hope that whatever they have in mind for the new Monarch ends up being sufficient payoff for dredging this up a second time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t understand why DC has brought back Monarch as Captain Atom.  If they had stuck to their guns and made Captain Atom Monarch in the first place that would be something.  But this?</p>
<p>The Wizard page you linked to implies that it is DC&#8217;s attempt to &#8220;make things right&#8221;.  If that is their motivation, its just stupid.  It doesn&#8217;t change the way that bungled the Armageddon 2001 storyline in the first place.  Moreover, every time I see him it just reminds me of the fiasco.</p>
<p>Oh well.  I guess I hope that whatever they have in mind for the new Monarch ends up being sufficient payoff for dredging this up a second time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad</title>
		<link>http://www.politedissent.com/archives/1971/comment-page-1#comment-291595</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think there&#039;s even some random part of the Captain Atom/Monarch stuff that says that the Atomic Knights or whomever found the Monarch armor and decided it was the only thing that could contain the good captain.

Not that anything in the Countdown series has made much sense, characterwise or otherwise.  A crazy monitor made Captain Atom crazy because it er... something.  Darkseid, and stuff.  And then a character who hasn&#039;t even been in Countdown at all comes in in the second to last issue and is a huge plot point.

It would be nice if they even bothered explaining what the heck the Monarch&#039;s motivation was , his beef with the monitors, and so forth.  As far as I can tell, the only explanation we&#039;ve gotten or will ever get is that he&#039;s a jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think there&#8217;s even some random part of the Captain Atom/Monarch stuff that says that the Atomic Knights or whomever found the Monarch armor and decided it was the only thing that could contain the good captain.</p>
<p>Not that anything in the Countdown series has made much sense, characterwise or otherwise.  A crazy monitor made Captain Atom crazy because it er&#8230; something.  Darkseid, and stuff.  And then a character who hasn&#8217;t even been in Countdown at all comes in in the second to last issue and is a huge plot point.</p>
<p>It would be nice if they even bothered explaining what the heck the Monarch&#8217;s motivation was , his beef with the monitors, and so forth.  As far as I can tell, the only explanation we&#8217;ve gotten or will ever get is that he&#8217;s a jerk.</p>
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		<title>By: Slarti</title>
		<link>http://www.politedissent.com/archives/1971/comment-page-1#comment-291459</link>
		<dc:creator>Slarti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But then, what happened to Hank Hall? Was he ever Monarch in this new continuity, or was it Captain Atom all along?&lt;/blockquote&gt;As far as I&#039;ve been able to tell, the pre-existing Monarch history is still intact. Hank was Monarch until he became Extant in &quot;Zero Hour&quot;, then later was killed in &quot;JSA&quot;. (The continued canonicity of his involvement in ZH was recently confirmed in an issue of &quot;Booster Gold&quot;.) Captain Atom only became Monarch recently, as part of the &quot;Infinite Crisis&quot; folderol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But then, what happened to Hank Hall? Was he ever Monarch in this new continuity, or was it Captain Atom all along?</p></blockquote>
<p>As far as I&#8217;ve been able to tell, the pre-existing Monarch history is still intact. Hank was Monarch until he became Extant in &#8220;Zero Hour&#8221;, then later was killed in &#8220;JSA&#8221;. (The continued canonicity of his involvement in ZH was recently confirmed in an issue of &#8220;Booster Gold&#8221;.) Captain Atom only became Monarch recently, as part of the &#8220;Infinite Crisis&#8221; folderol.</p>
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