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	<title>Comments on: Fantastic Four #561:  A Medical Review</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew Rossi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Rossi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It doesn’t end well for Sue after that.&lt;/i&gt;

Which is silly, really. While he&#039;s stabbing himself in the neck, she can completely encase him in a force field that has been shown to be strong enough to take punches from the Hulk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It doesn’t end well for Sue after that.</i></p>
<p>Which is silly, really. While he&#8217;s stabbing himself in the neck, she can completely encase him in a force field that has been shown to be strong enough to take punches from the Hulk.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benm In What If - Enemy of the State, Wolverine never gets unbrainwashed by the Hand. When Sue fights him she does encase his head in a forcefield, and Wolverine respond by stabbing his throat so he can continue to breathe.

It doesn&#039;t end well for Sue after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benm In What If &#8211; Enemy of the State, Wolverine never gets unbrainwashed by the Hand. When Sue fights him she does encase his head in a forcefield, and Wolverine respond by stabbing his throat so he can continue to breathe.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t end well for Sue after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Bash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metz77: Do&#039;H!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metz77: Do&#8217;H!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s even sadder is that this isn&#039;t the first time that Sue&#039;s gone up against Wolverine! Back when he was killed and reanimated by the Hand, he attacked the Fantastic Four and Sue pretty much shut him down. If I recall correctly, she actually did turn his retinas invisible *and* she threatened him with creating force field plugs inside his lungs. (I guess that if she&#039;d just domed his head, he could have pierced his own chest for airflow?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s even sadder is that this isn&#8217;t the first time that Sue&#8217;s gone up against Wolverine! Back when he was killed and reanimated by the Hand, he attacked the Fantastic Four and Sue pretty much shut him down. If I recall correctly, she actually did turn his retinas invisible *and* she threatened him with creating force field plugs inside his lungs. (I guess that if she&#8217;d just domed his head, he could have pierced his own chest for airflow?)</p>
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		<title>By: Metz77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metz77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is “invisabled” even a word?&lt;/i&gt;
Given that the dialogue is in the vernacular, and that sounds like a word someone is likely to make up, then yes.

&lt;i&gt;Sorry, poor &lt;b&gt;Grammer&lt;/b&gt;/English makes me crazy person.&lt;/i&gt;
Every time a grammar nazi misspells grammar an angel gets its wings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is “invisabled” even a word?</i><br />
Given that the dialogue is in the vernacular, and that sounds like a word someone is likely to make up, then yes.</p>
<p><i>Sorry, poor <b>Grammer</b>/English makes me crazy person.</i><br />
Every time a grammar nazi misspells grammar an angel gets its wings.</p>
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		<title>By: EWHPTIV</title>
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		<dc:creator>EWHPTIV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note: this is actually the &lt;i&gt;third&lt;/i&gt; time this error has shown up in a comic, and the &lt;i&gt;second&lt;/i&gt; time that Mark Millar has made it.  You&#039;ve got an earlier post here:
http://politedissent.com/archives/920
about a scene in which Ultimate Sue &quot;invisibles&quot; the optic nerves of a whole bunch of zombies.

As for the whole &quot;seeing while invisible&quot; thing, I think Mark Waid, in his FF run, had a techno-babble explanation for that.  Apparently Sue sees with regular light &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; some sort of &quot;cosmic radiation&quot;, which allows her to not only see while invisible, but also see things that she&#039;s made invisible.  Since it bypasses her rods and cones (or maybe just the ones that receive color, whichever those are), though, she only sees in black and white.

Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note: this is actually the <i>third</i> time this error has shown up in a comic, and the <i>second</i> time that Mark Millar has made it.  You&#8217;ve got an earlier post here:<br />
<a href="http://politedissent.com/archives/920" rel="nofollow">http://politedissent.com/archives/920</a><br />
about a scene in which Ultimate Sue &#8220;invisibles&#8221; the optic nerves of a whole bunch of zombies.</p>
<p>As for the whole &#8220;seeing while invisible&#8221; thing, I think Mark Waid, in his FF run, had a techno-babble explanation for that.  Apparently Sue sees with regular light <i>and</i> some sort of &#8220;cosmic radiation&#8221;, which allows her to not only see while invisible, but also see things that she&#8217;s made invisible.  Since it bypasses her rods and cones (or maybe just the ones that receive color, whichever those are), though, she only sees in black and white.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: guayec</title>
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		<dc:creator>guayec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I recall correctly, the AD&amp;D Invisibility spell was from the Illusion school of magic, not Transmutation. So was truly a magic trick, unrelated to physics. Kinda like the Obfuscation of WoD (more an enchantment, that one).

I hate Sue and the 4F. I don&#039;t read it so I&#039;m not sure of the battle conditions, but &quot;invisibling&quot; (!) nerve optics is obviously stupid, as everybody here said.

A force field could choke Logan, couldn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall correctly, the AD&amp;D Invisibility spell was from the Illusion school of magic, not Transmutation. So was truly a magic trick, unrelated to physics. Kinda like the Obfuscation of WoD (more an enchantment, that one).</p>
<p>I hate Sue and the 4F. I don&#8217;t read it so I&#8217;m not sure of the battle conditions, but &#8220;invisibling&#8221; (!) nerve optics is obviously stupid, as everybody here said.</p>
<p>A force field could choke Logan, couldn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Bash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &quot;invisabled&quot; even a word? Is there a difference between her &quot;invisabled his optic nerve&quot; and &quot;Making his Optic Nerve Invisable&quot;?

She could have just said, &quot;I&#039;ve made his EYES invisable.&quot; Simple and to the point.

Sorry, poor Grammer/English makes me crazy person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#8220;invisabled&#8221; even a word? Is there a difference between her &#8220;invisabled his optic nerve&#8221; and &#8220;Making his Optic Nerve Invisable&#8221;?</p>
<p>She could have just said, &#8220;I&#8217;ve made his EYES invisable.&#8221; Simple and to the point.</p>
<p>Sorry, poor Grammer/English makes me crazy person.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue is the second cheapest character in comics behind Superman.  I really hate her concept.

Why doesn&#039;t she just stroke him out with miniature force fields or surround his head with a force field and have him pass out from a lack of oxygen.  It worked against the Hulk and he can breathe (or whatever) in space.

Kudos to Millar to killing off future Sue (or whatever.)

Oh.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue is the second cheapest character in comics behind Superman.  I really hate her concept.</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t she just stroke him out with miniature force fields or surround his head with a force field and have him pass out from a lack of oxygen.  It worked against the Hulk and he can breathe (or whatever) in space.</p>
<p>Kudos to Millar to killing off future Sue (or whatever.)</p>
<p>Oh.</p>
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		<title>By: Alberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought that Sue&#039;s invisibility is more like an optical illusion thing than making her body&#039;s transparent with refraction index equal to the air. That would explain why she can see while invisible.

On the other hand, maybe she gets invisble except for her retina... They&#039;re so small that no one would notice two little things floating around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought that Sue&#8217;s invisibility is more like an optical illusion thing than making her body&#8217;s transparent with refraction index equal to the air. That would explain why she can see while invisible.</p>
<p>On the other hand, maybe she gets invisble except for her retina&#8230; They&#8217;re so small that no one would notice two little things floating around.</p>
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