Comments on: Fringe – Episode 5 (Season 2): “Dream Logic”

By: Erin

Erin — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:42:29 +0000

Ugh, the “all hair turns white” thing bothers me as much or more so than “psychic nosebleeds”, and is probably just as common.

By: FC

FC — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:21:19 +0000

“I understand how people don’t understand hacking and DDOS attacks and such, but not knowing that those magically glowing lights on the server are powered by an electrical outlet? That’s 1st grade science!”

Unless the servers were specialized and had internal power supplies. You don’t want an accidental power outage to just suddenly stop your servers, but that’s kind of extreme. Normally you have your servers connected to a UPS that can keep your machines running for a couple hours allowing you to safely shut them down, and you can usually un-plug those as well.

In any case we know the real reason why Dunham shot the server to pieces: it’s the Rule of Cool.

By: adrienne

adrienne — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:10:07 +0000

I actually quite enjoyed the idea that Bug (or whatever his name was in the episode, he’s always just going to be Bug from Crossing Jordan) was actually the addict and that his last attempt to catch the perp (which happened to be him) was an attempt to stop himself from killing more people.

But getting there was a little more painful than usual.

I’m just glad to see the Doomsday clock hasn’t expired. ‘cos I do love this show.

By: JockM

JockM — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:47:34 +0000

As a side note I knew an MA who routinely said “Blood CBC” and it became a running joke at the clinic.

I’m in DR’s offices a lot. I overhear things :)

By: Marotti

Marotti — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:48:03 +0000

Thanks for point #7!

They are frantically trying to disable the device (by typing on the keyboard, like he knows the software that is being run), then shoot the server? Umm… move the server, find the plug, unplug. I just did the same thing they did in about 10% of the time, and I saved all the data on the server in the process…

I understand how people don’t understand hacking and DDOS attacks and such, but not knowing that those magically glowing lights on the server are powered by an electrical outlet? That’s 1st grade science!

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:54:30 +0000

“2. We Solve the Problem by Breaking the Space-Time Continuum
Let me get this straight: the brain chip is used to correct non-REM sleep disorders. It does this by siphoning off dreams. Now, dreams generally occur in REM sleep, which comes after non-REM sleep. So the chips fix the sleep by removing something that hasn’t even occurred yet.”

It seems like the dreams weren’t being stolen until Nayak set up the system to do so. The first guy’s dream log suggests that he was having REM sleep. So the chip was working, until Nayak figured out he could steal the dreams, and when he started to steal the dreams it killed the patients (or at least when he turned up the intensity).

Now whether it makes sense that he can steal “more” dreams and accelerate the exhaustion can be debated.

By: EL

EL — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:35:59 +0000

By the way folks. Straight (as is meant in this context) is spelled “straight”. Strait is a term that means a narrow body of water, generally connecting two larger bodies of water (such as the Strait of Gibraltar) or may mean trouble, such as in dire straits. Normally I wouldn’t mind, but the error was being perpetuated.

By: EL

EL — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:30:54 +0000

I am rather surprised that anyone would think that someone stealing nightmares (as opposed to dreams in general) is a pervert. After all, look at the content of most horror/slasher films and their popularity. Although they are not to my taste ( in general being both gory and stupid (or is that stupid and gory?)), they are also worse than my nightmares ever have been. So anyway, unless the millions of people who like horror/slasher films are perverts, then this guy should not be considered a pervert. I would be willing to concede that people who enjoy horror/slasher films are perverts by the way. . .

Now what I find perverted is simply stealing dreams in general: that is, the invasion of privacy, rather than the thrill of watching something horrible. That is why peeping toms are considered perverts after all (as well as the fact that many of them escalate to more active crimes).

By: Jon Silpayamanant

Jon Silpayamanant — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:08:45 +0000

“Now, dreams generally occur in REM sleep, which comes after non-REM sleep. So the chips fix the sleep by removing something that hasn’t even occurred yet.”

Well, non-REM dreams tend to be “aural” dreams rather than the vivid and discontinuous visual ones that take place during REM sleep. But still, point taken.

And, it was a pretty lackluster episode story-wise.

By: Tobias

Tobias — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:56:13 +0000

“Also, what’s the problem with shooting the server? Seems to be pretty strait-forward and efficient.”

Maybe because it’s pretty ineffective: computer cases mostly contain air to allow a proper cooling stream. Also: even if you hit a picee of electronic inside the box, it doesn’t need to be a essentiell component (think about plug ‘n play) so the server continues normally.
Even ripping randomly cables off the case would be more effective than shooting it.