Comments on: Fringe — Episode 11 (Season 2): “Johari Window”

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 12 May 2011 00:51:06 +0000

Re: “So the EM wave is a low enough frequency to be heard as a deep hum, but still manages to affect the eye?”

I think you are confusing vibrational energy with electromagnetic energy.

hah, the funniest part about that whole EM thing is the specificity that resulted it from it…

By: Tony

Tony — Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:50:54 +0000

Did’t Like this one…This time I agree with you Scott ;)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:42:02 +0000

actually rather than the EM waves causing the hum, I remember it more as the generator running the machine to cause the hum… remember in the beginning the sheriff said “a nearby military base” had some loud turbine generators…

By: EL

EL — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:20:32 +0000

Boring episode. Too bad. This was definitely a six watch (or 6 cellphone) episode.

By: Akheloios

Akheloios — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:04:45 +0000

V.S. Ramachandran points out that in some patients who have suffered a stroke, they begin to treat some familiar object to them, their arm, their leg, a relative as though that limb did not ‘belong’ to them or that an impostor had taken their place. He hypothesises that the stroke damaged the area of the brain responsible for holding the emotional part of that patient’s relationship to the object.

So when the patient saw the arm, leg, relative, they saw the same physical manifestation, but could no longer feel the emotional bond, and so were deceived by their own brain into believing that some doppelgänger had taken the place of the relative, or their limb was someone else’s.

I suppose the corollary would be that if you found the correct place in the brain and poked it. You could fool the brain into thinking that a stranger was very emotionally important to you.

So, a fringe type stretch of that bit of science could be that if you poked the area for aesthetic appreciation. You could fool anyone viewing a person into thinking they were of normal appearance.

The actual poking stick is a bit harder, so lets just go with the E.M. mind control rays of the episode.

By: ps238principal

ps238principal — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:07:16 +0000

Not a science-y quibble, but it seemed odd that the sheriff shot at our heroes from the passenger side of his car while it was still moving, bouncing along, upsetting his aim. It would seem to me the car could have easily closed the gap and allowed enough time to step from the car and take a shot from a stable position.

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By: arkonbey

arkonbey — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:50:20 +0000

Another stupid point was that, in the day and age, a town cannot be all that isolated. People will have to leave for one thing or another, especially if they own a business.

For me the Fringe Doomsday Clock chimed twelve about episode two…

By: Colin

Colin — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:21:11 +0000

“So the EM wave is a low enough frequency to be heard as a deep hum, but still manages to affect the eye?”

EM waves cannot be heard: energy vs. pressure waves. However, supposing that EM has the effects described in the episode then the same EM may have affects on hearing. Maybe?

That said, I do not see how EM can affect nerves. For EM to affect a nerve the nerve must be electrically conductive to induce a current flow from the changing magnetic field. That’s not how nerves work (cation movements through the axon cell membrane instead of electron movements in metal). This premise fails EM 101 and physiology 101.