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		<title>By: hahaheehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>hahaheehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 11:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *dies*</description>
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		<title>By: Clay Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome.  You guys are scaring me just a little bit.  Look, I&#039;m smiling!  I&#039;m smiling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome.  You guys are scaring me just a little bit.  Look, I&#8217;m smiling!  I&#8217;m smiling!</p>
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		<title>By: Lazarus Lupin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazarus Lupin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beaton great idea, may I add something?  Maybe it has an affect on more than the face.  It&#039;s just that the wild frozen grin is what people see when they are presented with a fresh joker corpse.  Later on, at the autopsy the other effects are duly listed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beaton great idea, may I add something?  Maybe it has an affect on more than the face.  It&#8217;s just that the wild frozen grin is what people see when they are presented with a fresh joker corpse.  Later on, at the autopsy the other effects are duly listed.</p>
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		<title>By: What music was played in the final fight between Batman and Joker in Dark Knight?</title>
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		<dc:creator>What music was played in the final fight between Batman and Joker in Dark Knight?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 00:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great entry, Scott!

So if the great writers of the DCU can&#039;t come up with a plausible Joker toxin, maybe we can.  ;)

Let&#039;s start with the effects of JT (which can vary wildly depending on who&#039;s writing the story).

The common symptoms are:

1. Euphoria/uncontrollable laughter, possibly accompanied by hallucinations

2. Seizure (sometimes--again, depending on the writer)

3. Rapid death occurring less than 24 hours after exposure

4. Rictus grin, appearing shortly before death and remaining on the victim&#039;s corpse long after.

[There have been stories where JT also turns the victim&#039;s skin white, hair green, etc., but let&#039;s stick to the basics.]

Let&#039;s brainstorm!

I&#039;ll start:

For the grin, I like the idea of manipulating calcium channels to force tetany, but I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s possible to target one specific area, like the face.  I don&#039;t know, is it possible for a chemical or pathogen to target a specific nerve or plexus?  Damage to CN VII could cause perma-grin, could it not?

The biggest problem with the grin, of course, is that you wouldn&#039;t be able to see it unless the corpse was pretty darn fresh.  Rigor lasts, what, eight hours?  Then every muscle relaxes, regardless of electrolyte balance or present toxin, and you become an expressionless rag doll.  If Bats found a body two days dead, he&#039;d have no way of knowing the Joker was behind it without doing some lab work.  Am I wrong in that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great entry, Scott!</p>
<p>So if the great writers of the DCU can&#8217;t come up with a plausible Joker toxin, maybe we can.  ;)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start with the effects of JT (which can vary wildly depending on who&#8217;s writing the story).</p>
<p>The common symptoms are:</p>
<p>1. Euphoria/uncontrollable laughter, possibly accompanied by hallucinations</p>
<p>2. Seizure (sometimes&#8211;again, depending on the writer)</p>
<p>3. Rapid death occurring less than 24 hours after exposure</p>
<p>4. Rictus grin, appearing shortly before death and remaining on the victim&#8217;s corpse long after.</p>
<p>[There have been stories where JT also turns the victim's skin white, hair green, etc., but let's stick to the basics.]</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s brainstorm!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll start:</p>
<p>For the grin, I like the idea of manipulating calcium channels to force tetany, but I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s possible to target one specific area, like the face.  I don&#8217;t know, is it possible for a chemical or pathogen to target a specific nerve or plexus?  Damage to CN VII could cause perma-grin, could it not?</p>
<p>The biggest problem with the grin, of course, is that you wouldn&#8217;t be able to see it unless the corpse was pretty darn fresh.  Rigor lasts, what, eight hours?  Then every muscle relaxes, regardless of electrolyte balance or present toxin, and you become an expressionless rag doll.  If Bats found a body two days dead, he&#8217;d have no way of knowing the Joker was behind it without doing some lab work.  Am I wrong in that?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, but is his formulat PATENTED?&quot;

Wasn&#039;t that a plot for the Joker fish issues?  That he wanted to patent the fish with the joker face?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, but is his formulat PATENTED?&#8221;</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t that a plot for the Joker fish issues?  That he wanted to patent the fish with the joker face?</p>
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		<title>By: Lazarus Lupin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazarus Lupin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Archeville I do believe in that case it wasn&#039;t joker gas but a combination of cleaning chemicals to make a super slick surfer, they were afraid it was joker venom till he threw it on the floor and made his escape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Archeville I do believe in that case it wasn&#8217;t joker gas but a combination of cleaning chemicals to make a super slick surfer, they were afraid it was joker venom till he threw it on the floor and made his escape.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Archeville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Archeville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t he once mix up a batch of it from stuff he&#039;d found in a janitorial closet in Arkham?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t he once mix up a batch of it from stuff he&#8217;d found in a janitorial closet in Arkham?</p>
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		<title>By: Heimdall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heimdall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, 1991?  Wonder Woman #282?  Earth-2 Huntress (presumably in the back-up feature)?  Are you sure about the year?
(I&#039;m thinking you meant 1981.  #282 - with Huntress back-up - is cover-priced at $.50, which was the then-current price.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, 1991?  Wonder Woman #282?  Earth-2 Huntress (presumably in the back-up feature)?  Are you sure about the year?<br />
(I&#8217;m thinking you meant 1981.  #282 &#8211; with Huntress back-up &#8211; is cover-priced at $.50, which was the then-current price.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lazarus Lupin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazarus Lupin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also, since the joker is hardly a reputable chemist he&#039;s not working in the best labs or the best ingredients.  No doubt sometimes he has to reach for substitutes or synthesize various ingredients from other sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also, since the joker is hardly a reputable chemist he&#8217;s not working in the best labs or the best ingredients.  No doubt sometimes he has to reach for substitutes or synthesize various ingredients from other sources.</p>
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