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	<title>Comments on: True Tales of Medical  School: The Foley</title>
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		<title>By: Captain Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in paramedic school, so any time someone needs a foley during my ER shifts, i am more than happy to inform the nurse that Foleys are not in my scope of practice and we could all get in a heap of trouble if I did one, but if there&#039;s any OTHER way I can help them...</description>
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		<title>By: Yvonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first time I saw a patient have a foley he screamed with pain and I passed out. When I came round I asked the gentleman &#039;did it hurt&#039; he replied &#039;no not really&#039; I was howling with laughter.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first time I saw a patient have a foley he screamed with pain and I passed out. When I came round I asked the gentleman &#8216;did it hurt&#8217; he replied &#8216;no not really&#8217; I was howling with laughter.</p>
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		<title>By: DrEm</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrEm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a doctor in the UK. Just found this site and love it - I&#039;m a big House fan but always drive my (non-medical) sisters mad when watching it with them by constantly nit-picking the medical inaccuraries. 

I have a catheterisation story... here in the UK it&#039;s standard with male catheterisations to inject most of a pre-loaded 10ml syringe of lidocaine gel into the urethral meatus prior to cathing the patient, to serve as both lubrication and anaesthetic. You then wait a couple of minutes for the anaesthetic effect to kick in (unless the patient is in acute retention and is begging you just to hurry up and shove it in). 

When I first learned how to cath a male when I was a third year med student, some of the more unkind doctors decided to teach their female med students that having injected the lidocaine, you then had to &#039;massage it down&#039; with both hands around the penis... with predictable consequences in at least some of the younger patients. I wasn&#039;t caught out by this myself, but a few of my more naive colleagues did it several times before they realised their mistake.

I&#039;ll never forget my first male catheterisation, for different reasons. I&#039;m not sure how much US doctors will be able to relate to this, as I know most US men are circumsised, but in the UK it&#039;s relatively uncommon. So before you do a cath, in order to maintain sterility, you have to gently draw the foreskin back and clean the glans of the penis. It&#039;s very dependent on the gentleman&#039;s personal hygiene how unpleasant this task is, but I&#039;ve never since encountered what I saw on my first ever attempt.... (look away now if you&#039;re squeamish).... great white plaques of dead skin and general gunk, the size of two pence pieces. He was an old guy with obvious signs of self-neglect and it was clear that no-one had been behind that foreskin for a very long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a doctor in the UK. Just found this site and love it &#8211; I&#8217;m a big House fan but always drive my (non-medical) sisters mad when watching it with them by constantly nit-picking the medical inaccuraries. </p>
<p>I have a catheterisation story&#8230; here in the UK it&#8217;s standard with male catheterisations to inject most of a pre-loaded 10ml syringe of lidocaine gel into the urethral meatus prior to cathing the patient, to serve as both lubrication and anaesthetic. You then wait a couple of minutes for the anaesthetic effect to kick in (unless the patient is in acute retention and is begging you just to hurry up and shove it in). </p>
<p>When I first learned how to cath a male when I was a third year med student, some of the more unkind doctors decided to teach their female med students that having injected the lidocaine, you then had to &#8216;massage it down&#8217; with both hands around the penis&#8230; with predictable consequences in at least some of the younger patients. I wasn&#8217;t caught out by this myself, but a few of my more naive colleagues did it several times before they realised their mistake.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll never forget my first male catheterisation, for different reasons. I&#8217;m not sure how much US doctors will be able to relate to this, as I know most US men are circumsised, but in the UK it&#8217;s relatively uncommon. So before you do a cath, in order to maintain sterility, you have to gently draw the foreskin back and clean the glans of the penis. It&#8217;s very dependent on the gentleman&#8217;s personal hygiene how unpleasant this task is, but I&#8217;ve never since encountered what I saw on my first ever attempt&#8230;. (look away now if you&#8217;re squeamish)&#8230;. great white plaques of dead skin and general gunk, the size of two pence pieces. He was an old guy with obvious signs of self-neglect and it was clear that no-one had been behind that foreskin for a very long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 20:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a medical student, I remember how uncomfortable putting in your first Foley catheter can be. Thanks for sharing your story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a medical student, I remember how uncomfortable putting in your first Foley catheter can be. Thanks for sharing your story!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About two months ago I was in the hospital, awaiting surgery to remove a brain tumor.  I had a catheter inserted (while I was anesthetized thankfully.)  I have Buried Penis because of my weight.  It&#039;s embarassing, yes.  But, does that fact change the procedure for insterting a cath?  I would think it makes it more difficult.

Two days after surgery, I was cleared to be moved out of neuro intensive care and into a private room for futher recovery/observation.  I didn&#039;t need a catheter for the private room, so it was pulled out.  All I can say is OUCH!  It hurt like heck for a few seconds after being yanked out.

But that pain was nothing compared to the urinary tract infection I got two weeks later.  Because I had recent brain surgery, I wasn&#039;t allowed to drive.  So I had to call an ambulance to take me into hospital emergency.  (A different hospital than where I had the brain surgery.)

Five days after the surgery, I was discharged from the hospital, but then immediately admited to a rehabilitation facility.  I needed some time to recover some of my mental capablilities.  While in the rehab facility, an old retired man I shared a room with needed a catheter to releive his bladder.  He wasn&#039;t able to go to the bathroom on his own (for several days I overheard from the nurse.)  So the nurse had to insert a certain kind of catheter than was used once (to immediately relieve the bladder) and then removed.  The whole procedure took about 20 minutes or so.  I didn&#039;t watch, but I could hear.  Oh man, that was horrible.  The guy was crying - he was in his late 70s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About two months ago I was in the hospital, awaiting surgery to remove a brain tumor.  I had a catheter inserted (while I was anesthetized thankfully.)  I have Buried Penis because of my weight.  It&#8217;s embarassing, yes.  But, does that fact change the procedure for insterting a cath?  I would think it makes it more difficult.</p>
<p>Two days after surgery, I was cleared to be moved out of neuro intensive care and into a private room for futher recovery/observation.  I didn&#8217;t need a catheter for the private room, so it was pulled out.  All I can say is OUCH!  It hurt like heck for a few seconds after being yanked out.</p>
<p>But that pain was nothing compared to the urinary tract infection I got two weeks later.  Because I had recent brain surgery, I wasn&#8217;t allowed to drive.  So I had to call an ambulance to take me into hospital emergency.  (A different hospital than where I had the brain surgery.)</p>
<p>Five days after the surgery, I was discharged from the hospital, but then immediately admited to a rehabilitation facility.  I needed some time to recover some of my mental capablilities.  While in the rehab facility, an old retired man I shared a room with needed a catheter to releive his bladder.  He wasn&#8217;t able to go to the bathroom on his own (for several days I overheard from the nurse.)  So the nurse had to insert a certain kind of catheter than was used once (to immediately relieve the bladder) and then removed.  The whole procedure took about 20 minutes or so.  I didn&#8217;t watch, but I could hear.  Oh man, that was horrible.  The guy was crying &#8211; he was in his late 70s.</p>
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		<title>By: Nya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently performed my first foley on a paraplegic. I was mortified!! It wasn&#039;t as bad as any of the others but for me, OMG !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently performed my first foley on a paraplegic. I was mortified!! It wasn&#8217;t as bad as any of the others but for me, OMG !!</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know doing these procedures is embarrassing for both, inserter and insertee however I am appauled being in the nursing profession of the unprofessional behavior by so many. I try to treat all patients as I would want myself and family treated. There&#039;s a reason I would never let my spouse or disabled, mentally challenged daughter be alone overnight in a hospital or have anything done to them unless I feel the person is professional. I have seen,heard and read too many of accounts of this type of behavior by so called professionals.Most lay people have no clue what truly goes on when they have to have surgery or stay in a hospital. I avoid them myself since I now work as an educator and not a practitioner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know doing these procedures is embarrassing for both, inserter and insertee however I am appauled being in the nursing profession of the unprofessional behavior by so many. I try to treat all patients as I would want myself and family treated. There&#8217;s a reason I would never let my spouse or disabled, mentally challenged daughter be alone overnight in a hospital or have anything done to them unless I feel the person is professional. I have seen,heard and read too many of accounts of this type of behavior by so called professionals.Most lay people have no clue what truly goes on when they have to have surgery or stay in a hospital. I avoid them myself since I now work as an educator and not a practitioner.</p>
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		<title>By: angelapparent</title>
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		<dc:creator>angelapparent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes it feels like performing a TURP in the blind ...</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice story. The first time I ever placed a foley on a man was just a tinge worse. The patient had coded and we had him stable and on a vent. I grab the foley kit, get it set up, and start to insert it...and the patient gets an erection. Fully unconscious, on a vent...and the guy gets an erection. I ask my senior, who is doing his best not to burst out laughing, if this is normal. At this point he loses it and shakes his head furiously as he guffaws, &quot;No way. I&#039;ve never seen it before!&quot;. He then discreetly grabs several interns and nurses to supervise the rest of the &quot;procedure&quot; one of the most mortifying moments of my life. Thank God by the end of my first year in that ER not a soul remembered lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice story. The first time I ever placed a foley on a man was just a tinge worse. The patient had coded and we had him stable and on a vent. I grab the foley kit, get it set up, and start to insert it&#8230;and the patient gets an erection. Fully unconscious, on a vent&#8230;and the guy gets an erection. I ask my senior, who is doing his best not to burst out laughing, if this is normal. At this point he loses it and shakes his head furiously as he guffaws, &#8220;No way. I&#8217;ve never seen it before!&#8221;. He then discreetly grabs several interns and nurses to supervise the rest of the &#8220;procedure&#8221; one of the most mortifying moments of my life. Thank God by the end of my first year in that ER not a soul remembered lol.</p>
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		<title>By: suzjazz</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott,
Loved your Foley catheter story!
My BF had his removed a couple of days ago (he has been in the hospital for 9 days after surgery to remove his stomach because of stomach cancer)
Even though I am female, it makes me squirm just to think of that catheter going up a guy&#039;s urethra...OW!
I love to watch surgeries on Discovery Health and find all medicine fascinating.  I read a lot of books by docs (esp. surgeons)
Although I also love House and Grey&#039;s Anatomy, I am aware that the medicine is weak at best and fake/wrong at worst.  If I had been better at math and science and better able to detach myself from patients, I might have become a doctor.  I&#039;m pretty good for a layperson at diagnosing mystery illnesses.
I love your blog--keep the stories coming!  I am also a comics fan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott,<br />
Loved your Foley catheter story!<br />
My BF had his removed a couple of days ago (he has been in the hospital for 9 days after surgery to remove his stomach because of stomach cancer)<br />
Even though I am female, it makes me squirm just to think of that catheter going up a guy&#8217;s urethra&#8230;OW!<br />
I love to watch surgeries on Discovery Health and find all medicine fascinating.  I read a lot of books by docs (esp. surgeons)<br />
Although I also love House and Grey&#8217;s Anatomy, I am aware that the medicine is weak at best and fake/wrong at worst.  If I had been better at math and science and better able to detach myself from patients, I might have become a doctor.  I&#8217;m pretty good for a layperson at diagnosing mystery illnesses.<br />
I love your blog&#8211;keep the stories coming!  I am also a comics fan&#8230;</p>
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