House – episode 19
There is a big spoiler below, so condsider yourself warned.
At first, this seemed like it would be an excellent episode of House, but by the end it had degenerated into a “Look at us, we’re so clever” hour of television.
At a swim meet, one of the judges drops dead of bacterial meningitis. The hundreds of participants and bystanders are rushed to the local hospitals for evaluation. While examining a precocious twelve year-old highdiver, Dr. House is alarmed by her symptoms. She has a fever, neck pain (with side-to-side movement, not the flexion/extension pain normally seen with meningitis) and a rash on her abdomen. Due to the fact that these symptoms have been present for several days, House is convinced that she does not have meningitis, but is still concerned enough to admit her to the hospital. A spinal tap is normal. Drs. Foreman and Chase notice that she has blood in her mouth, though an endoscopy (apparently performed with a nasopharyngoscope) is fairly normal. The patient has an absence seizure while conveniently hooked up to an EEG. Due to the overcrowding in the hospital, a CT scan cannot be obtained so they have to ultrasound her brain. The ultrasound shows bleeding around the brain so she is taken to surgery. Ultimately the team discovers that the patient has Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura (TTP) due to being pregnant. House informs her that she needs plasmapheresis and must terminate the pregnancy.
There are two main problems with the medical care presented. First, while it is possible to ultrasound the brain, ultrasound waves cannot penetrate the skull. The procedure must be performed either before the skull bones have fused or on a surgically opened skull. Neither was the case here. Second and more important, termination of the pregnancy is not required in cases of TTP. The goal is to succesfully treat both the mother and the fetus; terminating the pregnancy does not affect the course of the disease.
A few medical nit-picks: Those weren’t absence seizure waveforms on the EEG. There are many more causes of TTP than the ones mentioned, though pregnancy is a major cause. Did they ever get around to explaining why the patient had neck pain?
The soap opera in this episode involved House trying to convince Cameron to come back to work for him. She agrees, but only if he goes on a date with her. This has conflict of interest written all over it.
This episode earns a B+ for the mystery but a pitiful C- for the solution. The medicine receives a barely passing D. The soap opera aspects earn a B.
May 4th, 2005 at 6:27 am
I’m not 100% sure, but I think when the neck pain first came up, the girl said she hurt it during the dive, or some such, which House (true to form) didn’t believe.
And Cameron’s ultimatum was just…creepy.
May 4th, 2005 at 10:10 am
I was surprised that the parents could be kept in the dark about the abortion. But I checked, and the New Jersey courts threw out their parental consent/notice law.
What also surprised me as that House and the others could miss that she was pregnant for that long. The ultrasound made it look like she was two or three months along. Shouldn’t she be in the midst of morning sickness? It seems like House has usually been better at spotting pregnancies than this.
May 4th, 2005 at 10:16 am
Official Comment
Yeah, the ultrasound showed a fetus that was at least 3 months. I’m surprised they took her to surgery without checking a pregnancy test or at the very least getting a good history.
May 4th, 2005 at 11:53 am
Personally, I think that the date request was a good way to show Dr. House how other people feel around him. It’s an area he probably has no expertise in. That might be why she asked him, imho.
May 4th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Early into the episode, I knew the problem would be sexually-related. I thought for sure that the coach was having a relationship with the girl. This is t.v.,after all, so the problem must have a predictably “shocking” solution. While I really like “House,” this episode was disappointing.
May 4th, 2005 at 9:41 pm
When she had blood in her mouth, did it make sense to check for bleeding in the intestines? Stomach, maybe, but could blood from the intestines make it up to the mouth?
Also, how come she was already hooked up to the EEG monitor before she’d had a seizure? Or would that be routine?
May 4th, 2005 at 9:54 pm
Official Comment
If she had been vomiting heavily, blood from the small intestine might make it up to the mouth (but she wasn’t).
You echo my point about the seizure and EEG — sure was mighty convenient she was already hooked up when the seizure happened out of the blue.
May 4th, 2005 at 10:21 pm
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May 4th, 2005 at 10:50 pm
Have you seen this week’s TV Guide? There’s a two-page article where three doctors were consulted about medical plot points from various “House” episodes. Their reactions seem to range from tepid to very negative.
May 4th, 2005 at 11:11 pm
Official Comment
Loren,
My wife pointed that out to me. I can’t believe they stole my schtick! Honestly, there has never been anything near a 100% accurate medical TV show, and House is far better than most. Still, I feel I have to correct its more blatant errors…
May 5th, 2005 at 11:17 pm
As for the abortion, that could just be House doing what he feels is best for her. That is the kind of guy he is, after all.
May 12th, 2005 at 9:11 am
House’s statement to the swimmer was that she would either have to have plasmapherisis OR terminate the pregnancy. The closed captioning reads “plasmapherisis or else terminate.” This may be no more medically correct, but at least House isn’t making the decision himself.
August 23rd, 2005 at 8:47 pm
According to my father while watching a re-run of this episode, the blood in the brain should have already shown up in the spinal tap, since a spinal tap is the conformation of a CAT scan. Is he right?
August 23rd, 2005 at 9:42 pm
Official Comment
If blood is seen on a CT, it generally shows up in the spinal tap. The main reason for doing a CAT before a spinal tap is to prevent a herniation of the brainstem.
August 25th, 2005 at 9:12 pm
What he is saying is that since they did the spinal tap first and saw no blood there was not a need to do the CT after the negative spinal tap. Is that right is the question.
August 26th, 2005 at 3:14 pm
Official Comment
He’s right – there was no need to do a CT scan to look for bleeding if the tap was negative. If they’re looking for masses, tumors and such they may still want to du a CT though.
December 2nd, 2006 at 7:05 am
Bad medicine is practiced in this episode of House. TTP is diagnosed by a low platelet count, anemia and neurological disorders. There is no relationship between TTP and pregnancy, however there is a relationship between HUS (haemolytic uremic syndrome) and pregnancy. HUS and TTP do have some resemblance, renal failure is more predominant in HUS and neurological disorders in TTP. A spinal tap and brain surgery is to my opinion contra-indicated in this case. Plasmaferesis is the treatment of choice. A remark on the videocapsule, the result of this test will be avalable after one week. In this episode it’s suggested that the result is known after several hours. Final remark: this episode shows again that on base of medical history taking, physical examination and basic laboratory examination the diagnosis would be made without the need of more sophisticated test.The TTP diagnosis in this case is wrong.
December 9th, 2006 at 6:40 pm
I would comment that House is one of the worst medical shows as far as medical accuracy is concerned. Even comedy shows like Scrubs tend to have fewer blatant errors. As a physician, I can overlook minor errors in tvland, but House routinely trots out blatant errors even medical students would recognize. It seems to me that the medical aspects of the show are researched on the internet by laypeople and that doctors are not involved.
December 9th, 2006 at 6:58 pm
And one more comment.
The comment by the above person Karpov is incorrect.
There is an association between TTP and pregnancy. Pregnancy is one possible precipitating factor among many, and account for 10-25% of all cases of TTP.
There is no relationship between HUS and pregnancy. In fact, HUS most commonly presents in children after bacterial infections.
And while the TTP diagnosis in this show was silly, calling it wrong implies that there was a “right” diagnosis given the way the patient was presented. And that is a bit ridiculous.
I do agree that doing a LP without a CT is stupid.
December 16th, 2006 at 11:36 pm
So who was the father?
December 23rd, 2006 at 5:55 am
Mayby I’m not totally correct in the relationship between TTP and pregnancy, however there is certain a relationship between HUS and pregnancy. However we can say there is some debate about HELPP, HUS, TTP etc. The main comment of John and me is that the diagnosis in this case of House doesn’t make any sense.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:50 pm
The decision to abort was one completely separate from the need for plasmapheresis. From a medical perspective, it was NOT an “either or.” TTP is caused by a mutation in the enzyme ADAMTS13 (Moake, NEJM 2002), and requires plasmapheresis to replace that defective enzyme – irrespective of pregnancy. In fact, pregnant mothers with TTP are treated with – plasmapheresis. She can keep the pregnancy with plasmapheresis, and if she aborts she still needs plasmapheresis.
It really felt like that bit was just thrown in at the end to find some way to close the episode with something that an uninformed lay person might understand as a life or death dilemma.
Or! do you think Dr. House already knew the girl had made up her mind on the matter, and given that he has no legal authority, decided to give her more justification for choosing what she already wanted to do? hmm . . .
February 6th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
It was interesting that the girl was 12. That is the same age that my daughter ended up being diagnosed with this rare and often fatal blood disease. He id not say that this disease does not want to leave one’s system after treatment, and comes back again and again with that patient.
Many of the girls who end up with this disease are high-risk and end up dying from TTP, the disease that he pretty much laughed at.
Brittany lost her battle with this rare disease at age 12. She had over 45 treatments of plasmpheresis, and then chemotherapy to try and stop TTP.
This is a rare and often dangerous disease.
May 15th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
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May 18th, 2007 at 10:53 pm
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July 4th, 2007 at 7:01 am
I am a patient suffering from the effects that TTP left on my body. It destroyed my kidneys and now am on dialysis,waiting for a transplant. Been on dialysis 4 years.I usually like House, but this episode, because it was so close to home (an episode of House being close to home LOL)I was pretty disappointed in it.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:42 am
I have to add that it is actually possible to do an ultrasound of the brain in adults without surgery. At my university (and some others in Germany), they try to diagnoze Parkinson’s disease early through a “bone window” in the temple area. I admit that this is still controversal (ultrasounding the substantia nigra seems not an easy thing to do), but you should be able to see blood that way.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:42 am
http://jnnp.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/76/3/423
October 11th, 2007 at 5:51 pm
you may think that he could not terminate the pregnancy but i think the girl was too young to have the kid if something more goes wrong in that kind of pregnancy she dies too because of her age so in that case was the right choice even if she’d wanted to have a baby
October 20th, 2007 at 12:52 am
this was the worst i mean the rash was bleeding into the skin (did u mention that???)
lol me being serious!
:)
October 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
scott plz answer 2 my message plz plz plz
ily and ur reviews, i never would have guessed some of the more obvius things u point out.
bye 4 now
January 22nd, 2008 at 11:45 pm
I just watched this on DVD, and was surprised to see, listed on the whiteboard, the words “intercranial bleeding.” The next time we see the whiteboard, it says “intracranial bleeding.” I was glad she hadn’t grown another head.
January 23rd, 2008 at 5:31 pm
In this episode, the girl ingests a camera which shows the doctors her digestive tract. Both the LP and this test, called a capsule endoscopy, take a total of three hours. However, when I had a capsule endoscopy, I had to wait for the camera to finish passing, which in me was slightly faster than average- about 6 hours total. Thus, the team’s timing was off. And, who are Chase, Foreman, and House to look at and interpret this? They certainly are not gastrointestinal doctors! The writers MUST stop making House and his lackeys perform tests that they are obviously unqualified to do, and they need to stop producing results from tests that take days and/or hours to complete in a lot less time. It makes me feel slightly stupid that they do not always stick to the natural rules of medicine because they feel like people won’t pick up on it! So anyway, I thought you’d like to know another mistake that I picked up on in this episode =]
June 9th, 2008 at 9:04 am
My biggest problem was actually with the way House is inspired to guess TTP: the idea that the other boys on her team are “avoiding” her. This is a false clue, given that it turns out to have little to no explained relevance–was it the sixteen-year-old kid on the team? If so, why would the other guys avoid her? Sixteen-year-old males don’t have sex with twelve-year-old girls and then let their friends know–they would immediately be ostracized along with the girl. So they’d shut up about it. This is a logical “bridge” that just doesn’t connect from clue to conclusion.
I’m not sure I explained that very well.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Maybe it wasn’t so much the episode as tv in general, but in the first few minutes I knew it had something to do with her relationship with her coach…
House didn’t actually say she had to get an abortion because of the TTP, did he? I’m pretty sure he said she had TTP and that she had to terminate the pregnancy. I remember thinking he was just being bossy and manipulative, which means that there wasn’t anything explicitly stating it was because of the disease. I could have missed it, of course.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:20 am
Aurora, Karen, et al,
I too thought that House said “plasmapherisis or else terminate” but that didn’t make much sense to me. Karen notes that the closed captioning said “or else” but the subtitles in the DVD read “plasmapherisis and we’ll have to terminate”… which left me wondering, “why do they have to terminate the pregnancy?” With abortion being as controversial as it is, I found it brazen to just throw that in there without any explanation. He did say something though along the lines of “if you’re old enough to bleed out of your vagina then you’re old enough to have an abortion without your parents help” or something like that, but I didn’t understand what he meant by that. I suspect that the writers threw in the abortion in order to balance out the show’s pro-life/pro-abortion stance so that it can’t be branded as either one. I’m catching up on the episodes and have two episodes left to finish season one. So far House is 2-1 pro-life… with the two “pro-life” episodes, in my opinion, being Sports Medicine and Babies & Bathwater and the one “pro-abortion” episode being this one, Kids.
October 8th, 2008 at 3:14 am
Not much about this episode about TTP was very accurate. My sister just died in June from complications from TTP and I’ve read every thing I could get my hands on about this disease. They really need to do more research about these illnesses before doing TV shows about them. Plasmapheresis is indeed one of the treatments for TTP so they did get that right. Karpov knows a whole lot more accurate info on TTP than this episode of House. One of the first indications that my sister might be suffering from TTP was a very, very low platelet count and neurological changes. Thanks to those who are actually getting the right information about this horrible disease.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:06 am
I’ve gotten hooked on House these past few months, and really enjoy it in spite of many obvious medical gaffs they commit for various reasons — I work in a hospital pathology department and always chuckle when they 3 yound MD’s go into the apparently otherwise deserted lab to do tests…. a facility of this size would have 24-hour lab staff of 20-50 people…. at any rate.. the laugh of the episode was the capsule endoscopy (camera pill) being done in just an hour or two, when my wife (who works in our Endoscopy department) says it typically takes around 12 hours to pass through the digestive tract. Still, the drama and investigation aspects of the show outweigh the medical laspes. Too bad those of use on the blog can’t get a retainer for fact checking scripts =–)
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Actually, he says that the plasmapherisis will kill the fetus. Thus, termination of the pregancy. Abortion before the treatment is safer than waiting for the miscarriage.
February 4th, 2009 at 6:46 am
Neck pain was apparently caused by her straining it mid-dive, according to Mary… House just held onto it as a symptom, but it can be explained away by her straining it.
October 14th, 2010 at 9:01 am
No one thought about the female interviewee whom House dismissed because of her shoes? I haven’t been on the lookout but I’m sure Cameron was wearing heels throughout the seasons. Barring actor’s pay etc, I think I would have taken the interviewee over Cameron any day.
Also considering House’s “everybody lies, motto” no one ever really questioned the trainer? I mean I’m sure its constitutional rape. I am surprised the parents didn’t beat the living crap out of him.
November 8th, 2010 at 1:21 am
In the scene where the kid comes out of the bathroom stall after making straining noises, House says “You know what a hemorrhoid is? Well Google it.” Wouldn’t it be more productive to google “constipation”?
November 17th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Just an observation: they swallow a LOT of pills without water in this show. I take Vicoden occasionally as needed for pain, the 7.5/750 dose, and those things are horse pills. I take a lot of medication and I can take huge handfuls of pills on only 1 or two gulps of water, but I can’t imagine taking even 1 of my Vicoden alone without at least a sip of something.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Everyone else is focusing on that disease the girl had. I’m finding myself focusing on one of the first commenters from, what, six years ago? The one who said the twelve-year-old should have known she was pregnant from the morning sickness?
ooh boy, here we go.
1. She was a 12-year-old. They barely know what menstruation is, much less how it feels to be pregnant. Except the ones who start early, but considering there are adult women who believe silly things about the female reproductive system… you know.
1a. Teenagers who are still relatively new to menstruation are more likely to have irregular periods, making diagnosis even more difficult, especially if they *don’t* have morning sickness–see next item.
2. Not every pregnant woman gets morning sickness.
3. Not every woman who gets morning sickness in one pregnancy gets it in all of them.
In my first pregnancy my period was still pretty irregular beforehand. I had a couple episodes of lightheadedness, and I’m not one to faint, but both episodes were connected with me being overheated, so I could more easily dismiss them. No indigestion, no weird food cravings, no nothing. It was my husband who finally said to me, “I think you might be pregnant,” prompting us to go first to the drugstore and then to the clinic for confirmation.
In my second pregnancy I started getting morning sickness right after a household-wide bout of the creeping crud, where *everybody* had upset tummies. I assumed I’d simply caught what was going around. It was when I continued vomiting day after day (morning sickness doesn’t necessarily only happen in the morning either!) that I clued in that something was probably going on. My periods were still sorta irregular then, but I found out I was expecting a lot sooner than I had with my first pregnancy. They couldn’t even pick up the heartbeat with a stethoscope yet.
I realize this is one of those stereotypes about women that everyone loves to repeat, so I thought maybe I should say something, since none of the medical experts here had bothered. Given that you ignored that glaring error from a commenter, I’m wondering whether I should trust the information *you’ve* given out, either.
February 6th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Is it just me or does nobody mention that it would be strange for a 12 year old to be pregnent, it would be normal to not have her period, let alone have sex and get pregnent.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Dana> No, some 12yos do know what menstruation is: I started my (very regular) period very young, so I knew what to expect by the time I was 12. Puberty does have a broad range, after all.
Marina> It’s not as common nowadays, but there are middle schoolers who have sex, so it’s definitely possible for a 12yo to be pregnant. It’s normal both to have people that age to have periods and to not have periods.
October 20th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
I am not a doctor, but which idiot suggests an abortion on someone with an as-yet uncontrolled clotting disorder? They should wait at least until the clotting normalizes.
November 30th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Why was she admitted in the first place? Because of a random fever and a rash (the neck was already explained)? She was obviously well enough to perform an advanced, and very mentally and physically demanding, dive. There is nothing that says she can’t just be sent home and told “maybe you should see a doc for that fever…” somewhere where it’s NOT already overrun by meningitis patients.
Second, is it really necessary to flood the entire hospital and set up a quarantine because of one confirmed case of meningitis? Telling hundreds of people who just happened to be in the same swimming hall for a few hours to overrun the hospital and have doctors leave their normal duties to perform hundreds of tests seems WAY overreacting.
In Sweden profylactic antibiotics is given only to close contacts (family and close friends, not classmates if there’s only one sick kid in the class for example). Also it takes at least two days for someone newly infected to get sick, meaning none of the people who stormed the hospital should have symptoms.
I just have a hard time believing an entire hospital is being shut down every time someone gets sick with meningitis.
November 30th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
And why don’t they ever give anesthesia for lumbar punction for example? It literally takes five extra minutes, and with no suspicion of meningitis I can’t think of a reason to be in such a hurry. It’s not a dramatic thing to do if it’s done right.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I had TTP in real life and the only reason many nurses knew about TTP was from this episode. There is however, no definitive test, and I was constantly released, until finally I arrived having a stroke, seize, super low plasma and red blood, 106 deg F temp and high white blood cells. I was unconscious at first, vast blood tests performed, but never once was I tested for pregnancy, asked, or even family with me as a guess. (I discovered this while getting tunneled catheters (plasmapheresis) to leave a 2 month hospital stay and they said they never had a pregnancy test. (After TONS of high dose meds, CTS scans, MRIs, Xrays, EEGs, EKGs, so on.)
AND to everyone saying wouldn’t she know she was pregnant with morning sickness, I mean not every woman gets it, BUT with progressed TTP I was puking constantly, I thought I had a horrible flu til it became abnormally persistent, weirder still is that it’s common to gain weight, or at least not lose waist despite frequent vomiting with TTP, even little appetite (until the steroids), I got weaker and weaker. Finally once admitted the for a Iong stay (after many shorter ones) I was pronounced near death, paralyzed on the Rside & at that point considered severely brain damaged. jaundice, bruising everywhere, plasmapheresis and blood transfusions several times a day (not a good time to have ABneg-(rarest blood), often had to wait hours for enough supply), and so on.
I DO agree a brain ultrasound makes no sense, but I learned I was a trial subject, with a rare blood disorder affecting only 3 to 6 in a million causes per year. Every few days a new doctor was on the floor (rotating about 5 doctors) and they ALL had different views and fought often about my treatment. SO it’s hard to judge was is right in this disorder. I have joined online groups and am thankful I had successful, MANY people still die, go into coma, need new spleens, kidneys, livers, heart work, and so on. Until the advent of spinning out plasma with plasmapheresis it was considered fatal.
Sorry about the long post, just thought I’d share my experience suffering from TTP, Or if anyone wanted to ask if anything did/didn’t happen compared to the show or anything,?
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